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Buffalo Bulls Football / Re: Colgate game
« on: September 20, 2017, 07:27:52 PM »
2010 - URI - 16,273
2011 - Stony Brook - 21,933
2012 - Morgan St - 15,570
2013 - Stony Brook - 24,013
2014 - Duquesne - 20,329
2015 - Albany - 20,872
2016 - Albany - 18,657
2017 - Colgate - 11,546

So the average for the prior seven years is ~19,600. The mean is a shade above. So Colgate attendance was 8k+ off the average of the prior seven years and 7k off last year. That would appear to be statistically significant. If so, the reason likely goes beyond WNY being a pro sports and not a college town.

UB should follow the Buffalo Bisons model. Lower ticket prices and raise concession prices.

Buffalo Bulls Football / Re: Colgate game
« on: September 20, 2017, 11:03:46 AM »
Does anyone know what opening game attendance was the last several years?

Buffalo Bulls Football / Re: Colgate game
« on: September 19, 2017, 12:15:44 PM »
Great turnout by the students yet only 11k total fans in the stands? What happened, Buffalo?

Good question. Who really knows, but here's a few guesses.
1. Colgate.
2. Lack of success the last few years.
3. Momentum from NYBI gone.
4. Dropping four sports.

You certainly can't blame the weather. It was beautiful. 6 o'clock would seem to be a great time for the game. It was the home opener. These factors would suggest a strong turn out. It helped with the students, but local alums and community pretty much ignored the game.

Buffalo Bulls Basketball / Re: Former players open training favility
« on: September 12, 2017, 12:51:32 PM »
Nice article. Nice gym. Nice venture. Good luck guys!

Buffalo Bulls Football / Re: Minnesota BRUWPEG
« on: August 30, 2017, 05:17:11 PM »
Gophers 37
Bulls      13

Buffalo Bulls Basketball / Re: McKinzie in trouble
« on: August 17, 2017, 01:48:17 PM »
A wise choice to leave the state. It protects him from the temptation to violate the conditions of his sentence. I hope he learns from his mistake.

General Discussion / Re: Danny White
« on: August 17, 2017, 01:44:42 PM »
Danny White signed a contract extension with UCF with an option to renew annually for five years, including a base salary of $525,000 and 5 percent pay increases for each remaining year of the contract and various incentives, according to an article in the Orlando Sentinel. The new deal follows "a successful run by numerous coaches he hired and a surge in fundraising," according to the article.

Good for him. It would be interesting to see how fundraising at UB has fared since his departure. Perhaps someone could shed some light on this.

Buffalo Bulls Basketball / Re: Dolan Out
« on: July 05, 2017, 11:59:23 AM »
A few thoughts:
1. hate to see him go. Good kid, good family and an excellent shooter. We could have used him last year.
2. probably a good move for him. I'm guessing Oats didn't have him penciled in for any significant playing time, so why not go to a great school and play ball?!
3. I wonder what affect this will have on his brother Greg who is a legit mid-major point guard if not higher.

Best of luck to Graham.

General Discussion / Bill Greiner is rolling over in his grave
« on: June 12, 2017, 10:20:39 PM »
Here is an article from Bull Run where a student athlete vents over the direction and direction of UB athletics and its administration.

I had the feeling two three years ago that UB was on an upward trajectory. Unfortunately that momentum has been lost and it seems like athletics is heading into the abyss. Very sad.

General Discussion / Re: UB drops 4 sports
« on: May 09, 2017, 10:32:32 PM »
UB will be sued over dropping men's swimming. An atty alum is suing to get a refund on contributions made and simultaneously attempting to reverse decision on axing men's swimming. Apparently this action was under consideration for five years with absolutely zero outreach to people who might step and help with funding specific sports such as men's swimming. While many of our facilities are substandard our swimming and diving aquatics center is state of the art which makes getting rid of a swim team plain dumb! Here's the article.

This also gets back to my point above re field house. I've donated money for that project for nderstsnfing that the field house was for the football team and not the general student population. To put it mildly I am not happy.

General Discussion / Re: UB drops 4 sports
« on: May 05, 2017, 12:19:07 PM »
NCAA President Emmert spoke at Daemen College yesterday.  He spoke briefly with the Buffalo News about the UB situation.

In a brief interview with The Buffalo News, Emmert said the University at Buffalo's recent decision to eliminate four sports highlights a misconception among some people that universities participate in athletics primarily because they make a lot of money doing so.

"The reality is quite the opposite," he said.

Schools like UB are "having to make difficult budgeting decisions and college sports are not immune from that," he added.

Emmert recalled having to shut down the University of Washington's swimming program in 2009 due to budget constraints.

Emmert said he did not necessarily see a trend toward athletic program cuts. Some schools were adding sports, such as beach volleyball.

"It's variable, depending on each school's circumstances," he said.
Interesting. Meanwhile Daemen, that D2 school formerly NAIA, is adding Men's Volleyball. Strange juxtaposition with the next Big Time Athletics brand and New York's Public Powerhouse slashing programs. Give credit to UB alum and current Daemen AD Bridget Niland for advancing athletic opportunities at Daemen. Hopefully we can steal her when it's time for ADAG to go.

General Discussion / Re: Indoor Practice facility
« on: April 30, 2017, 05:42:37 PM »
"On the athletics side, Tripathi briefly touched on the proposed fieldhouse and noted that funding for that project will come entirely from outside sources, meaning no state funds will be used to fund this project. In addition, he said, the fieldhouse won’t be used only for athletics programs — it also will accommodate recreation and intramural programs as well, making it available to the wider student population."

Weren't those private funds raised telling people the money would be used to build a practice facility for UB football? This is another half measure. There should be a separate IM facility.

Buffalo Bulls Basketball / Ohio's Jarron Simmons transfers to Michigan
« on: April 26, 2017, 11:17:14 AM »
Again one of our main competitors being hit hard by a transfer with the Bobcats losing Simmons arguably their best and most important player. On top of Akron being decimated with five transfers UB advances by their losses. On top of that it seems our roster only gets stronger.

General Discussion / Re: Indoor Practice facility
« on: April 14, 2017, 10:02:49 AM »
But they are each a preeminent university without indoor track.

Secondly the MAC indoor men's Championship involved 5 schools. Appears it's not a huge priority in the conference

Yes, but there are a lot more than 3 preeminent schools WITH indoor track facilities. Each of the schools you listed is a "stand alone" university. UB is marketing itself as the flagship university in a very large state-wide system with multiple university centers...this is an opportunity to reinforce that conceit.

I agree with you. If you're going to build a field house do it right. Don't cut corners so you can say you did it. If you can't raise the money or there isn't sufficient buy in from university officials, alumni, students, the community then perhaps you ought not be doing it at all. While you want to keep up with the Jones (i.e. The other conference teams) will a field house all of a sudden make our football program great when it has been mired in quagmire save a couple seasons. And are we really still embracing Whites vision of the "flagship university" "next big time athletics brand" New York's public powerhouse" when it comes to athletics? It certainly appears not. In order to advance you need to do so slowly but surely especially when you have a schizophrenic athletic history like UB. There has to be a stable ongoing unified commitment which no longer seems to be there.

General Discussion / Re: UB drops 4 sports
« on: April 06, 2017, 10:53:06 AM »
Nice article by Kevin McCormick sharing his view of this travesty as well as providing some insight to these four sports for those who know little of them.

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