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day”Dream”ing of the top 5 male basket Bulls in the pros
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121Merrimac
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« on: January 09, 2014, 09:49:55 PM »


This post was inspired by NTBullsFan’s recent update on Yassin “the Dream”: http://www.ubfan.com/board/index.php?topic=15018.0

So, starting with Yassin Idbihi ( http://basketball.eurobasket.com/player/Yassin_Idbihi/45710 ), we know that:
He graduated in 2007.  Has played in France and for numerous teams in Germany.  The numbers show that he has been a decent reserve for his team which currently leads the top league in Germany.  They really seem to spread their minutes around.  There are 9 players on the team averaging  between 16 and 22 minutes a game.  One player averages 26, and Yassin checks in with 14.  Oddly enough, he is the only player on the team who has not attempted a three this season.  As a side note, Bayern Muenchen won their Top 16 game that NTBullsFan mentioned the other day.  They won their second round game earlier today too.

Next we have another, more recent, fan favorite big man in Mitchell Watt ( http://basketball.eurobasket.com/player/Mitchell_Watt/161328 ):
He graduated in 2012.  Has played for a couple teams in Israel.  Currently the starting PF for his team which is in the middle of what I think is the top league in Israel.  He leads the team in field goals made and blocked shots.  He is 3rd in the league in blocked shots and is in the top 10 in the league in field goals made.

Of course Tony Watson II ( http://basketball.eurobasket.com/player/Tony_Watson_II/184187 ) played for UB such a short time ago that no one will have forgotten about him just yet.
He is playing his first year in Germany's second best league.  He is the starting PG for a team near the bottom of it's league.  He leads his team in minutes played, field goals made, 3 point percentage, free throws (made, attempted and percentage), assists and steals.  Actually he leads the league in average minutes played.  He is also 3rd in the league in assists and is in the top 10 in the league in several of these other categories.

Searching back a few years, I was happy to see that Calvin Cage ( http://basketball.asia-basket.com/player/Calvin_Cage/26919 ) is still playing.
He graduated in 2006.  Has played in Venezuela (twice), Czech Republic and Qatar (twice).   Currently the starting PG for his team in Qatar.  Leads the team in assists and 3 pointers (both made and percentage).  He is 3rd in the league in 3 pointers made and in the top 10 in the league in assists and 3 point percentage.  Unfortunately his team is ranked near the bottom of Qatar's top league.

For kicks, I kept searching back into earlier and earlier UB rosters.  I was dumbfounded when I came across Louis Campbell ( http://basketball.eurobasket.com/player/Louis_Campbell/26879 ).
He graduated in 2002.  Has played in Spain, Japan, for several German teams and in France.  He is the starting PG and leads his team in assists, steals and 3 pointers (both made and percentage).  He is 2nd in the league in steals and the top 10 in the league in assists.  His team is near the top of the best league in France.

So, how to rank them?
#5 – Tony Watson II, amazing stat line, but in a second level league.
#4 – Mitchell Watt, starter, decent team, but still a short career.
#3 – Yassin Idbihi, several years into his career, seemingly a great team, but only a reserve.
#2 – Calvin Cage, decent career length, great stats, but on a poor team in a questionable (at least by little old ignorant me) league.
#1 – Louis Campbell, playing for over a decade, starting for a top team, with great stats, and winning ‘play of the night’ and ‘assist of the night’ accolades (find video links in his EuroBasket page).

No disrespect to other UB greats, but this is a listing of players currently in the pros.  So, who did I miss?  How would you rank them?
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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2014, 12:25:59 AM »

Titus Robinson on the Fort Wayne Mad Ants in he NBA D-League.
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2014, 06:23:48 AM »

You know the official UB site does list everyone whose ever played in the pros.

http://www.ubbulls.com/fanZone/pros

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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2014, 12:32:12 PM »

You know the official UB site does list everyone whose ever played in the pros.

http://www.ubbulls.com/fanZone/pros


Yet they're missing Watt, Watson and Robinson.
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2014, 09:13:58 PM »

Titus Robinson on the Fort Wayne Mad Ants in he NBA D-League.

Unfortunately he did not make my top 5.  Who would you remove from the list in order to make room for him?


You know the official UB site does list everyone whose ever played in the pros.

http://www.ubbulls.com/fanZone/pros

Yes, that's a decent resource.  For some reason the MBB section doesn't comment on their active years, which is what I was interested in.


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Yet they're missing Watt, Watson and Robinson.

And Eric Moore.  And BJ Walker.
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2014, 10:08:37 PM »

Somebody really needs to update that site. They don't have Drew Willy with the RoughRiders.
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2014, 09:09:58 AM »

Great post Mer.....

Unfortunately I did not *really* start following hoops until the Pierce/Watt/McCrea era so I can't put feed back in but it was a great read.
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2014, 04:53:56 PM »

Other than two or three games, I don't really want to remember Eric Moore
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2014, 06:05:07 PM »

Moore vs Sammarco. Bout of the decade.
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2014, 01:04:16 PM »

Great post Mer.....

Unfortunately I did not *really* start following hoops until the Pierce/Watt/McCrea era so I can't put feed back in but it was a great read.

Thanks, I’m glad someone enjoyed it.  Honestly, I didn’t consider anyone’s undergrad accomplishments in this ranking.  It was more of an attempt at comparing how our guys are doing in the various leagues around the world.  Like you, it was something I don’t feel terribly qualified to do either, by the way.  Maybe Brooklyn is right, and getting a few minutes in the NBA D-League is more meaningful than being a ProA, all league, stat stuffer in Germany?

It’s too late now, but my tldr would have been:
1) Bayern are off to a 2-0 start in Top 16
2) Louis Freakin’ Campbell


Moore vs Sammarco. Bout of the decade.

Thanks, I had forgotten that that thriller was in the same season as the Sockless OT.
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