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Title: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: Kevin on March 16, 2018, 12:38:39 AM
This is the game we should have gotten in the first place in the first round.

Kentucky didn't look great, but can we keep this up?

That's right SECOND ROUND. TOP 32 baby.

Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: admin on March 16, 2018, 12:47:48 AM
I really enjoyed Chris Webber’s commentary. He really gave us a lot of love be and it looked like he actually did his homework on us. I hope he announces again Saturday.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: xDerekRx on March 16, 2018, 01:28:24 AM
Stickied.

Hey why not. Just keep the confidence flowing
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: admin on March 16, 2018, 01:42:19 AM
I would guess 9:20 or 9:40 game. And I would guess with Kentucky it’ll be CBS.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: Kevin on March 16, 2018, 01:47:48 AM
5:15 CBS
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: UB85 on March 16, 2018, 02:42:20 AM
This is the game we should have gotten in the first place in the first round.

Kentucky didn't look great, but can we keep this up?

That's right SECOND ROUND. TOP 32 baby.

That would be an emphatic YES! we played the perfect game tonight. Have to keep the fantastic ball pressure up. Rebound as they did tonight....like banshees and keep shooting the rock well.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: UB85 on March 16, 2018, 02:43:24 AM
I really enjoyed Chris Webber’s commentary. He really gave us a lot of love be and it looked like he actually did his homework on us. I hope he announces again Saturday.

Same two announcers. I'm now looking into making the flight out there to support these guys. W'll see what happens.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: RochBull on March 16, 2018, 08:01:14 AM
Cannot wait for this game. Can they just play it now?
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: miamioh78 on March 16, 2018, 08:17:56 AM
Congrats to the Bulls! Great job repping the MAC!
Keep it up and beat some more Wildcats!
Good luck!
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: admin on March 16, 2018, 08:21:47 AM
5:15 CBS
Is that eastern time zone?
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: RochBull on March 16, 2018, 08:28:50 AM
5:15 CBS
Is that eastern time zone?

Yes - I already told my wife I'm eating dinner in the living room.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: ChubbyHubby on March 16, 2018, 09:10:57 AM
Speaking of dinner... In Wisconsin, where Nate is from, they take fresh ground beef, add some onion and seasoning and eat it on party rye slices.  RAW.  We would call it steak tartar.  They call it wildcat.  Head to your local meat market and get some 90/10.  We're dining on more wildcat tomorrow.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: ftns on March 16, 2018, 10:06:39 AM
https://kentucky.247sports.com/Article/Buffalos-Wes-Clark-eager-for-another-shot-at-Kentucky-116302074
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: promotherobot on March 16, 2018, 11:20:34 AM
Chris Canty on Golic and Wingo today. "Virginia's path to the Final Four just got easier with Arizona out. Of course they still have to worry about Kentucky." Post that on the bulletin board, Coach Oats.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: Jeseph on March 16, 2018, 11:38:36 AM
We have a NCAA 2nd Round game thread. This still hasn't settled in yet.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: UB92 on March 16, 2018, 12:00:50 PM
Chris Canty on Golic and Wingo today. "Virginia's path to the Final Four just got easier with Arizona out. Of course they still have to worry about Kentucky." Post that on the bulletin board, Coach Oats.

When they had Seth Greenberg on to talk about the AZ/UB game, he basically spent the whole time talking about what AZ did not do, how they quit, etc.  When Wingo asked him "how was it that this team just won their conference championship tournament a few days ago and now they come out flat", Greenberg (who is an idiot) said "who knows" or something similar.  What fantastic insight.  Greenberg didn't say any names of any UB players during the very brief portion where he did decide to talk about UB.  It makes sense, though.  This guy does a podcast with Dakich, so perhaps they are two peas in a pod.

Greenberg also dismissed KY/UB saying Kentucky would win.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: guru on March 16, 2018, 12:51:48 PM
Agree, the Greenberg's and Bilas's  and the Dakich's of the world truly only care about the power conferences and teams because that is where their bread is buttered as they say. You are right they will not do their homework or give any love to mid major teams in the tourney and of course pass it off as a fluke. Continue to support our UB athletic teams and Go Bulls!!!
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: squire17 on March 16, 2018, 05:03:22 PM
Yesterday’s game was almost surreal. Just about everything that go right did, in fact, go right. I’m not a grad of the school but would just like to say, “Alright, UB! Let’s get on your feet! Let’s go, UB!”
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: TopHatandTie on March 16, 2018, 05:59:24 PM
Anyone else going to Boise?  Or know someone who is?
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: ChubbyHubby on March 16, 2018, 09:37:26 PM
Anyone else going to Boise?  Or know someone who is?
Holy Shaq.  There's a blast from the past.  Welcome back TH&T
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: UB85 on March 16, 2018, 11:12:19 PM
Anyone else going to Boise?  Or know someone who is?

I wish I was. Checked flights early this morning and the RT cost was ~2k, which was 2 expensive for my pocketbook.

Great to see you and so many others come out of the woodwork and posting again! I hope everyone stays and becomes active once again. Our fan and alumni should be our athletics department greatest asset. It will only become so if we all get behind it and ensure that the administration sees the value of a committed athletic department. I read an article suggesting the advertising value to UB from yesterday's win was in the seven figures.

I post a lot, many times simply because I want to generate discussion and heighten enthusiasm. I have always been and will continue to be a huge believer in this university, this city and this community. We are great. We can be greater. We need to believe. And then go seize the moment with a vision of excellence and enthusiasm as well. Go Bulls!
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: Kevin on March 17, 2018, 12:38:56 AM
Chris Canty on Golic and Wingo today. "Virginia's path to the Final Four just got easier with Arizona out. Of course they still have to worry about Kentucky." Post that on the bulletin board, Coach Oats.

When they had Seth Greenberg on to talk about the AZ/UB game, he basically spent the whole time talking about what AZ did not do, how they quit, etc.  When Wingo asked him "how was it that this team just won their conference championship tournament a few days ago and now they come out flat", Greenberg (who is an idiot) said "who knows" or something similar.  What fantastic insight.  Greenberg didn't say any names of any UB players during the very brief portion where he did decide to talk about UB.  It makes sense, though.  This guy does a podcast with Dakich, so perhaps they are two peas in a pod.

Greenberg also dismissed KY/UB saying Kentucky would win.

Did it get easier by losing to UMBC or no?
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: swflCAT on March 17, 2018, 03:11:50 AM
Great win and good luck.  This may be a good one, seems like your players are thinking the transition game may be the way to go with us/UK... we think we like a transition game, throw that ball up and lets go.  Who knows what will happen this has been a strange year and so far a stranger tournament.... 16 getting a 1 for the first time.  I 'm hoping you all were hot and lucky and we had our clunker, only one way to find out. I hope for no injuries and we can hit some 3's.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: Pharaoh on March 17, 2018, 03:57:57 AM
Anyone else going to Boise?  Or know someone who is?

I wish I was. Checked flights early this morning and the RT cost was ~2k, which was 2 expensive for my pocketbook.

Great to see you and so many others come out of the woodwork and posting again! I hope everyone stays and becomes active once again. Our fan and alumni should be our athletics department greatest asset. It will only become so if we all get behind it and ensure that the administration sees the value of a committed athletic department. I read an article suggesting the advertising value to UB from yesterday's win was in the seven figures.

I post a lot, many times simply because I want to generate discussion and heighten enthusiasm. I have always been and will continue to be a huge believer in this university, this city and this community. We are great. We can be greater. We need to believe. And then go seize the moment with a vision of excellence and enthusiasm as well. Go Bulls!

Well said!  Good to be back.  I used to post here every day.  Forgot how fun it was.

As for the game.  I picked UB into my sweet sixteen in my bracket.  I felt good about Arizona, and pretty good about Kentucky.  Now if we can win tomorrow we'll be playing a higher seed than the 2 we already beat.  It's getting real interesting here fellas, especially if we can pull this off tomorrow.

I'll be rooting for UB all the way here in Nashville and will most likely be surrounded by Kentucky fans at the bar and they take their college basketball very seriously down here.  Should make for an interesting time!  Go UB!
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: zigo230 on March 17, 2018, 09:24:12 AM
Nice article about the Bulls and Oats in the Washington Post today.  Under the radar no more.  They very much expect to win today’s game.  Should be fun.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: admin on March 17, 2018, 01:33:56 PM
4 hours to go.

Should be a good one.
I have not watched Kentucky all year except for a little of the Davidson game at the end.

From what i know of Coach Calipari's system of dribble drive motion, the key to stopping their offense is that initial drive.  Well if that's the case, we are really setup well for this game.  Davonte Jordan is one of the best on the ball defenders I've seen.  He's always, sitting down and always does a great job of staying in front of his man.  It's almost like he's a fencer (used to fence in HS).  Not only do we have Jordan, but we also have Caruthers who is a slightly different style of defender, but just as effective.  Not sure who's the better defender.  Both are outstanding.

Against Arizona, we had some really bad defensive breakdowns.  In that sense I do think we're lucky that we came away with the win.  Arizona forced us to double Ayton which UB is not used to doing.  This led to a lot of confusion.  I don't think we will double against Kentucky today.  We're just not good at it.  The key will be Harris against Knox.  Knox, who I'll be watching closely (Knicks potential pick at 8, although he's dropped recently on many boards) hopefully gets tired himself chasing Harris around.

Harris has been playing amazingly.  His confidence must be sky high because he took Ayton off the dribble several times and even had a step back jumper.  I think I underestimated Harris and if he can continue to play at this level, he'll certainly be in discussions for potential NBA talks for next year.

Wes Clark is playing the best ball of the year and from his previous stats at Mizzou, his whole career.  He's just unstoppable right now because his mid range jumper is working.  And he's even driving and laying the ball up with his left hand in traffic.  That takes a lot of confidence.

We'll need to feed Perkins inside and will need to get the team in foul trouble.  It'll be key not to let Kentucky into to the bonus in the 2nd half.  These bonus free throws usually lead to wins and it'll be key to limit the fouls while getting into the bonus first.

We can definitely win and I am really looking forward to this game as always.  We have nothing to lose.  Time to Go!
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: Kevin on March 17, 2018, 05:14:27 PM
Come on guys! you are playing with house money!!!!!!!!! Shock the world.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: squire17 on March 17, 2018, 05:16:30 PM
Bulls have to play tough defense again. Refs have to let them play. Have to value the ball, and make our 3s. Go Bulls!
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: Kevin on March 17, 2018, 05:26:15 PM
Looks like we have some MAC refs today.

6 fouls 4 minutes in.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: Jeseph on March 17, 2018, 05:26:58 PM
Slow start against some UK athletes. Gotta hit a couple shots and get into a rhythm but as Kevin mentioned officiating slowing the game down right now.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: Buffalofan4255 on March 17, 2018, 05:30:40 PM
These freshmen are getting a little in our heads. We gotta get our energy and confidence up. Seems jittery.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: Kevin on March 17, 2018, 05:34:20 PM
An utter foul fest. Whatever.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: Jeseph on March 17, 2018, 05:45:18 PM
Need to find some defense, Harris and Clark coming alive offensively but they're shooting 66% on us
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: Buffalofan4255 on March 17, 2018, 05:52:01 PM
Starting to get some heat. Our passing and ball handling is on point. Keep that up and we’ll gain em.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: ed on March 17, 2018, 05:54:28 PM
Massinburg's 3 was awesome!
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: Jeseph on March 17, 2018, 06:05:54 PM
So. Many. Fouls.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: squire17 on March 17, 2018, 06:12:33 PM
can't win a dunkfest. Don't see how we come back in this game. Would have to go crazy hot from 3 in the second half. Not going to happen, unfortunately. Great year, UB!
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: ubmae86 on March 17, 2018, 06:14:11 PM
can't win a dunkfest. Don't see how we come back in this game. Would have to go crazy hot from 3 in the second half. Not going to happen, unfortunately. Great year, UB!

Damn dude, keep faith. We're not down that much and we have plenty of space to growin the second half. We can still do this, just bullieve.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: Kevin on March 17, 2018, 06:27:34 PM
can't win a dunkfest. Don't see how we come back in this game. Would have to go crazy hot from 3 in the second half. Not going to happen, unfortunately. Great year, UB!

Damn dude, keep faith. We're not down that much and we have plenty of space to growin the second half. We can still do this, just bullieve.

Right, it's not like we are playing lights and and still down 9. They are playing bad on both sides of the floor.

an equaling of the FG% could even up this game. So could foul trouble.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: Buffalofan4255 on March 17, 2018, 06:27:54 PM
Remember, we came back hard in the second half against Arizona and ended up beating them by 21. We can do the same. Oats is giving our boys magic right now. Let’s go bulls.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: admin on March 17, 2018, 06:30:53 PM
Gotta stop that initial dribble drive. Can’t help.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: Buffalofan4255 on March 17, 2018, 06:38:54 PM
THERE. WE GO.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: admin on March 17, 2018, 06:40:09 PM
Clark keeping us in this.
Man he hasn’t been with us long but I love him.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: ubmae86 on March 17, 2018, 06:44:08 PM
Clark keeping us in this.
Man he hasn’t been with us long but I love him.

Can we please have him another year!?
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: ed on March 17, 2018, 06:45:07 PM
Down by 6, Buffalo ball. Let's go!
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: ed on March 17, 2018, 06:45:44 PM
4!
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: Kevin on March 17, 2018, 06:55:16 PM
Come on guys 12 minutes! Make a push like you never have.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: Jeseph on March 17, 2018, 07:05:26 PM
Come on guys 12 minutes! Make a push like you never have.

please please please let's run here
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: ed on March 17, 2018, 07:13:09 PM
Looking ugly now. Good game though - hung tough most of the game with some great athletes.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: ubmae86 on March 17, 2018, 07:23:20 PM
Though game. We didn't shoot well and we were out matched athletically. Great job by our boys. Excited for this team's return next year
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: Buffalofan4255 on March 17, 2018, 07:24:59 PM
We played hard and we played well. Came within just a few points for a good portion of the game. Next year will be stellar. Historic run of the bulls this year, horns up.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: RochBull on March 17, 2018, 07:28:47 PM
Amazing run. Definitely a season to remember. I can’t wait for next year - I’m thinking I’m going to have to drive up to get my son to his first game.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: whizbang on March 17, 2018, 07:35:05 PM
I am so proud of these guys and the coaching staff.  Really jazzed about next year.

Now let’s really get behind the football team! 
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: UB92 on March 17, 2018, 07:41:12 PM
Didn't hit some shots when we really needed them, but Kentucky shot well and hit them when they needed them.

Kentucky has a lot of talent, as usual.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: guru on March 17, 2018, 07:46:30 PM
A tough, tough game. Kentucky looked like a faster more athletic team than Arizona. We would of had to shoot lights out again. I think we made only 7 3 pointers and were really beat off the dribble and in the paint. But we never gave up and fought to the end. Thanks to the entire team for an exciting season with many exciting moments all year. Let us know when UB will be arriving back in Buffalo. I only hope Calipari shows some humility but I am not holding my breath. Thanks again and Go Bulls!!!
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: admin on March 17, 2018, 07:47:47 PM
Wow, those guys were athletic.

Gabriel hitting threes was a killer.
After Clark got hurt, he was just not the same. And I think he ran out of gas. Going to really miss him. He was so good.

I thought we could keep them in front but they were just too good.

Great job by Caruthers who kept Knox in check. The other kids killed us.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: squire17 on March 17, 2018, 08:02:17 PM
Kentucky a pretty tough match. Except for Clark and Massinburg, we just didn't shoot well enough. Really had no answer for their domination down low. Glaring deficiency in post...don't envision any improvement in that respect next year given our recruits. Still, what a great season! If Oats and crew stick around for a few more years and we can get back to the dance next year, the program can hopefully get to the next rung. Go Bulls! Thanks for a memorable year!
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: UB85 on March 17, 2018, 10:10:37 PM
What a pleasure to read all these comments!

My hat is off to Nate, staff and the players. What a ride! Congratulations and Bravo to them. Thank you and heartfelt appreciation to each of them for their amazing dedication, hard work and discipline.

Tough game today. It was certainly winnable. We just needed to play a bit better outside of Wes and CJ, both of whom were terrific. Harris just couldn't find his range today. Carruthers was a defensive stud. What a joy it is to watch him dig all the time. Jordan didn't have a great game, but he was all effort so no complaints here. Perk just overmatched inside, where I wish he would have played more. Ikenna got off to a nice start. Good to see him have some success.

Congrats to Kentucky. They will be a tough out. It would have been nice to shut Bilas up, but it wasn't meant to be in this day.

And thanks to all the fans here. It has been a great ride reading your comments, seeing your enthusiasm and, at times, debating various points of discussion.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: nyquil on March 17, 2018, 10:34:17 PM
In the end Kentucky always hit a shot when they needed it.  We didn't.

Still, great season.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: admin on March 17, 2018, 10:39:09 PM
I’m still not sure what I just witnessed with Kentucky.  Maybe I’m giving Buffalo too much credit but Kentucky looks legit. I basically saw this game as a 12 vs 5 but that was not a 5 seed. They looked like one of the best teams in the tourney. They did not make any freshmen mistakes. I thought if we made a run which we did in the second half they would make mistakes. They didn’t.  They kept coming. They were relentless. 

One thing I realized watching these games: if we want to hang with these guys, we might need to learn some zone. Our identity is man, but we might need to switch things up once in a while. I don’t think it would have mattered because Kentucky was really good. I would guess that was a very good game from them. We needed them to play average and unfortunately they had it going.

Clark is going to be hard to replace. We might not need him to win the MAC, but boy did he carry us tonight. Without him, I think we lose by 40.

I really also hope Smart will come back. You need big bodies against these p5 teams.

Perkins needs to alter his shot. I’m really surprised that he’s still shooting the same way from outside. He either needs to add more arc or he should not shoot those late in games. I know he hit a big one in the MAC tourney. I hate to say it but that was one of those no no no yes.

Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: BrazenBull on March 17, 2018, 11:25:12 PM

Perkins needs to alter his shot. I’m really surprised that he’s still shooting the same way from outside. He either needs to add more arc or he should not shoot those late in games. I know he hit a big one in the MAC tourney. I hate to say it but that was one of those no no no yes.

That was definitely the crowd reaction with that particular shot. Every time he pulled up to shoot beyond the arc, tension filled the air.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: UB85 on March 18, 2018, 01:03:47 PM

Perkins needs to alter his shot. I’m really surprised that he’s still shooting the same way from outside. He either needs to add more arc or he should not shoot those late in games. I know he hit a big one in the MAC tourney. I hate to say it but that was one of those no no no yes.

That was definitely the crowd reaction with that particular shot. Every time he pulled up to shoot beyond the arc, tension filled the air.

It's ugly. But it works for him. The key is for Perk to be far more judicious when, where and how much time he has to take a 3. He also gets way too enamored with trying to handle the ball and beat opponents off the dribble. He gets himself, and thus the team, in trouble far too may times because he has yet to figure out when not/to do both things. It is extremely unlikely that his shot changes in any significant way.

Jayvon Graves, on the other hand, has much more to work with and can change his shot. The spin on his 3 point shot is east and west rather than the traditional rotation of a dead eye marksman where the ball rotates with backspin and a north/south rotation. He needs to focus on wrist snap and follow through toward the hoop.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: Kevin on March 18, 2018, 02:58:21 PM
I’m still not sure what I just witnessed with Kentucky.  Maybe I’m giving Buffalo too much credit but Kentucky looks legit. I basically saw this game as a 12 vs 5 but that was not a 5 seed. They looked like one of the best teams in the tourney. They did not make any freshmen mistakes. I thought if we made a run which we did in the second half they would make mistakes. They didn’t.  They kept coming. They were relentless. 

One thing I realized watching these games: if we want to hang with these guys, we might need to learn some zone. Our identity is man, but we might need to switch things up once in a while. I don’t think it would have mattered because Kentucky was really good. I would guess that was a very good game from them. We needed them to play average and unfortunately they had it going.

Clark is going to be hard to replace. We might not need him to win the MAC, but boy did he carry us tonight. Without him, I think we lose by 40.

I really also hope Smart will come back. You need big bodies against these p5 teams.

Perkins needs to alter his shot. I’m really surprised that he’s still shooting the same way from outside. He either needs to add more arc or he should not shoot those late in games. I know he hit a big one in the MAC tourney. I hate to say it but that was one of those no no no yes.

Smart is long gone. He's already committed to go back to NC. Not sure if there is a Mid Major there he'll stick with. Maybe one of the smaller UNCs.

I expect this run to help us fill our forward need with a big time recruit who is unsigned, or another JuCo transfer.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: squire17 on March 18, 2018, 04:04:00 PM
I’m still not sure what I just witnessed with Kentucky.  Maybe I’m giving Buffalo too much credit but Kentucky looks legit. I basically saw this game as a 12 vs 5 but that was not a 5 seed. They looked like one of the best teams in the tourney. They did not make any freshmen mistakes. I thought if we made a run which we did in the second half they would make mistakes. They didn’t.  They kept coming. They were relentless. 

One thing I realized watching these games: if we want to hang with these guys, we might need to learn some zone. Our identity is man, but we might need to switch things up once in a while. I don’t think it would have mattered because Kentucky was really good. I would guess that was a very good game from them. We needed them to play average and unfortunately they had it going.

Clark is going to be hard to replace. We might not need him to win the MAC, but boy did he carry us tonight. Without him, I think we lose by 40.

I really also hope Smart will come back. You need big bodies against these p5 teams.

Perkins needs to alter his shot. I’m really surprised that he’s still shooting the same way from outside. He either needs to add more arc or he should not shoot those late in games. I know he hit a big one in the MAC tourney. I hate to say it but that was one of those no no no yes.

Smart is long gone. He's already committed to go back to NC. Not sure if there is a Mid Major there he'll stick with. Maybe one of the smaller UNCs.

I expect this run to help us fill our forward need with a big time recruit who is unsigned, or another JuCo transfer.

Sure hope the Bulls can get a tough big who can defend and grab rebounds.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: enrique14150 on March 18, 2018, 08:28:36 PM
At the end of this game I was just so proud of this team - how hard they fought, how they took this program to the next step.  Warrior Wes Clark.  They started cold from the floor and every time they almost caught up, Kentucky would hit a couple shots.  Nothing but pride in fighting their hardest against a really good opponent.
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: admin on March 19, 2018, 08:35:55 AM
Had to rewind and see what happened in this game.

Overall UB played with lot of grit. As well as Kentucky played, we had a shot to win. Some key plays changed things around.

A play which I think changed the game happened at the start. It was when Shai G took Jordan off the dribble. Jordan played him very tight and Shai pushes him. A foul is called on Jordan. This is a 50:50 call but the refs were not going to give this to the defense on this night. This sets up the whole game. Jordan is forced to give Shai space and Shai has a career night. Maybe he’s actually the best PG in this years draft, I would certainly take him over Trae Young. I believe the game would have been different if that foul went to Shai. Jordan is caught in foul trouble all night.

Three point shooting first half. It wasn’t falling, we did shout ourselves out of it but we settled too much in the first half. It’s a double edged sword but I think hitting all those against Arizona hurt us in this game. We fell in love with it Instead of taking it hard.

Around the 12 minute mark (2nd half) UB is once again making a run. I think we bring it to 5. Kentucky is caught on a switch and a guard is on Perkins. Harris has the ball on the left key and instead of feeding Perkins he tries to take Gabriel off the dribble. He travels. Perkins is visibly upset. Part of the reason why I had to rewind to see exactly who was guarding him on that play. Kentucky comes back and hits a three. Back up by 8.

Diallo skies for a putback dunk. Afterwards, he goes a little overboard with the taunting. No tech is called. He continues to play with that same swagger the whole game. His best games as a wildcat.

Clark gets kneed by Gabriel boxing out. He just didn’t seem to have the same explosion afterwards.

We make another run and Clark find McRae for a beautiful should be dunk. McRae inexplicably loses the ball while going up. Was it a foul? Replays show no. On the next play, McRae is open for a corner 3. It’s an air ball. Again did McRae hitting that shot against Arizona give him that false confidence?

Around the 8 minute mark, Caruthers makes an amazing steal and drives for a fast break and 1. We cut it to five. Another Kentucky turnover and we are in transition. Instead of driving to the hoop we setup Harris for a 3.  It’s short and Kentucky comes back and hits a 3 and that was pretty much it.  Kentucky plays with energy and we look spent.

The casual fan will see the score and think Kentucky dominated this game. It was a dog fight and we fell short. In the same way, most will see the Arizona score and think we dominated. That game was also close. 
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: mikescherrer8 on March 19, 2018, 10:16:47 AM
This game kind of showed that yeah we have really good guards, but, we are so incredibly bleak at the 4 and 5 forward position, and that was really a major issue because of how lengthy Kentucky is. Outside of Perkins, we have nobody that can be remotely consistent. That is something Oats and company have got to address this off-season.

We are going to be bloody stacked at guard next season, but, forward position is not looking pretty as of right now.

GO BULLS! 
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: guru on March 19, 2018, 11:22:39 AM
Right on the money mikescherrer8 about our 4/5 positions.I have been saying that all year. It so hard at the mid major level to find that big time athletic quality big man at the 4/5 position. Both Smart and McCrea are very limited and not consistent. It will be interesting to see if Bertram shows any improvement next year. We were able to get away with their weaknesses in the MAC but it becomes very difficult when playing top tier teams. I don't see much improvement next year unless the coaches can hit on some JUCO type player or some player that fell thru the cracks like CJ did. The recruits that coach Oats are looking at for after next year show they know what they need. Most of the players they are looking at at big, athletic front line players. Go Bulls!!!!
Title: Re: #13 UB vs #5 Kentucky Game (3/17 5:15pm)***NCAA 2nd Round
Post by: MillenniumBull on March 19, 2018, 10:03:57 PM
Had to rewind and see what happened in this game.

Overall UB played with lot of grit. As well as Kentucky played, we had a shot to win. Some key plays changed things around.

A play which I think changed the game happened at the start. It was when Shai G took Jordan off the dribble. Jordan played him very tight and Shai pushes him. A foul is called on Jordan. This is a 50:50 call but the refs were not going to give this to the defense on this night. This sets up the whole game. Jordan is forced to give Shai space and Shai has a career night. Maybe he’s actually the best PG in this years draft, I would certainly take him over Trae Young. I believe the game would have been different if that foul went to Shai. Jordan is caught in foul trouble all night.

Three point shooting first half. It wasn’t falling, we did shout ourselves out of it but we settled too much in the first half. It’s a double edged sword but I think hitting all those against Arizona hurt us in this game. We fell in love with it Instead of taking it hard.

Around the 12 minute mark (2nd half) UB is once again making a run. I think we bring it to 5. Kentucky is caught on a switch and a guard is on Perkins. Harris has the ball on the left key and instead of feeding Perkins he tries to take Gabriel off the dribble. He travels. Perkins is visibly upset. Part of the reason why I had to rewind to see exactly who was guarding him on that play. Kentucky comes back and hits a three. Back up by 8.

Diallo skies for a putback dunk. Afterwards, he goes a little overboard with the taunting. No tech is called. He continues to play with that same swagger the whole game. His best games as a wildcat.

Clark gets kneed by Gabriel boxing out. He just didn’t seem to have the same explosion afterwards.

We make another run and Clark find McRae for a beautiful should be dunk. McRae inexplicably loses the ball while going up. Was it a foul? Replays show no. On the next play, McRae is open for a corner 3. It’s an air ball. Again did McRae hitting that shot against Arizona give him that false confidence?

Around the 8 minute mark, Caruthers makes an amazing steal and drives for a fast break and 1. We cut it to five. Another Kentucky turnover and we are in transition. Instead of driving to the hoop we setup Harris for a 3.  It’s short and Kentucky comes back and hits a 3 and that was pretty much it.  Kentucky plays with energy and we look spent.

The casual fan will see the score and think Kentucky dominated this game. It was a dog fight and we fell short. In the same way, most will see the Arizona score and think we dominated. That game was also close.

You choose : false confidence or no confidence. I know which a gentleman named Nate Oats chooses.